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 Titel: Safe or not
Indlæg: 24 maj 2003 02:38 
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Hi!

I have a history of depression and anxiety. I have used a lot of antidepressant medications. With none effect what-so-ever.
The cure for me was Salvia Divinorum. My doctor agree 100% that the Salvia D. is the reason for that I now have recovered my mental health.
I have a deep passion for true entheogens. Most of all:
Salvia Divinorum, Hawaiian baby woodrose, Morning glory, Piper methysticum.
I live in a forest area in Norway (Bergen), where Psilocybe Semilanceata and Amanita Muscaria mushrooms are VERY common. Now that I feel that my mind is "healed", I have an interest in pick some and dry them and storage them for a while. And then, when I feel ready, I will try them out.
I have some questions that I hope someone out there could give me the answers that I need for my further research.
1. Can I dry mushrooms in the oven (at low temp.) (espescialy the Amanita).
2. Should I keep them in the freezer or in a closed plasticbag.
3. The most important queastion of them. I have no experience with mushrooms at all. With my history. Would it be safe to try them out at all? Don't wanna go back to the prison of depression again!

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 Titel: Safe or not
Indlæg: 25 maj 2003 14:34 
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1. Sure you can dry the shrooms in the oven, but remember that psilocybin is thermally unstable. Keep the temp. below 50°C.
A better way to dry them would be to spread them out in one layer on a newspaper in a dry, room temperatured area. They dry within 2-3 days.

2. When dry you must store them in a sealed plastic bag(or similar) in a cold/chilled, dry and dark place.
Remember not to freeze the shrooms. The plant cell which contains the psilocybin will burst and the alkaloids will oxidize/decompose in the presence of oxygene.

3. The only one to know whether it´s right or wrong to do the shrooms is...YOU [img]images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img]
But it seems that you´re well known with other hallucinogenes. Especially salvinorin A is very strong psychoactive substance. So if you can deal with this and LSA, then I think you can deal with shrooms also(?)...but it´s only a guess...and remember to start on a very small dose(below 0,25g P. semilanceata) to get the feeling of the influence.
Do not judge my words as law and remember only to do the things that pleases you and make you comfo...

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 Titel: Safe or not
Indlæg: 25 maj 2003 16:19 
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Well, then again. Even though you are a very "trained" Salvia smoker, shrooms might still make it all wrong again. Salvinorin A and Psilocybin/Psilocin works on different receptors. Psilocybin/Psilocin, as most other tryptamines, works on the serotonin receptors, and Salvinorin A works on some other receptors, the Kappa-Opioid receptors. So you see. the chemistry might go wrong again. It plays on different tangents (or something, hehe)

I found this info on erowid some time ago, i printed out the article, so idon't have the URL, but search for it on www.erowid.org
hopefully that'll help a bit


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 Titel: Safe or not
Indlæg: 26 maj 2003 00:45 
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I don´t think that it´s a good idea, if you´ve had depressions. Of course, it is your own choice, but still.. P. Semilanceata can be an extremely dangerous toy, eh? I don´t know about the amanita(i have´nt tried it out, but i could imagine it was sort of the same.
Btw: it is never completely 100% safe to take anything. Especially not psychedelic drugs.
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Indlæg: 26 maj 2003 08:56 
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Most people I've talked to who tried amanitas had a bad experience; They describe it as a lot of nausea, combined with a drunken feeling. According to them, there should be little psychedelic potential in amanitas. IMO, better stick to the psilocybe.


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 Titel: Safe or not
Indlæg: 26 maj 2003 13:19 
keep the srhooms in a plastik bag in a dark container.

Dry them on a newspaper or at 50 C in the oven for about 3 hours, the newspaper is best for the shrooms.

But I can't recomand using shrooms after a depresion, psychedelic's are hard to the mind and you have to bee in 100% controle of your emotiens ect. ect.

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