Psychedelia.dk

Jeg mener engang at kunne huske en måde, at gøre hash mere potent på , via en kemisk proces.
Jeg mener at den var skrevet herinde..? Er der nogle der kan hjælpe mig..?

Hilsen Indra

Mener du at udtrække NOL eller hvad har du i tankerne?

TBF

hvad mener du med mere potent ?.. well vis du nu eks laver "ice" hash af en skod ryger..så gør du jo dit hash mere potent..?...det vil være mit bud...eller nol (hash olie )

Jeg tænker på et gøre det mere potent, ved en kemisk proces, ligesom indjektion af Dopamin forøger mængden af meskalin i visse kakti..!

Mener du her at sproejte ren dopamin ind i en kaktus?

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Så vidt jeg er underrettet er der ice metoden og at trække nol, men hvis der var en metode til at gøre god ryger til genial ryger let og billigt, så ville det nok være meget udbredt.

TBF

Ja f.eks. på en san pedro, så sprøjter man for hver fem centimeter et par måneder før høst
Dopaminen skulle virke næsten som i menneskekroppen, men hvor den istedet for bliver omdannet til normeskalin og senere til meskalin
Man kan også vande den med A-Z spormineraller, med samme efekt

Hvad er ice-metoden..? Er det bare ryst..?

Ice er, når du vha. isvand fryser thc krystallerne på planten (vi taler altså her om pot eller skunk), så harpiksen bliver hårdt og knækker af planten og synker til bunds, mens det lettere plantemateriale flyder ovenpå.

Du tager altså en masse skunk, hælder det i en balje med isvand, pærer det rundt et stykke tid, og sier plantematerialet fra. Herefter sier du, med en finere si, alt harpiksen fra, som du så presser sammen til de bløde sorte klumper vi kender som ice. Ice er helt blødt som modellervoks ved stuetemperatur, og hvis du varmer på det med hænderne skal det gerne blive endnu blødere, og mere modellérbart. Nærmest som en råolieagtig dej.

Mht. til dit oprindelige spørgsmål, lyder det vist som om du leder efter de vises sten.
Lortestandard -> 80'er = Bly -> guld, eller?

ja, du nar sikkert ret

Hvis jeg skulle trække guffet ud af noget ryger, så ville jeg trække det ud med lightergas... har ikke prøvet det, men de guides jeg har læst virker rimeligt enkle og det skulle gi et meget potent produkt.

TBF

Normeskalin ??? Det er der da vist ikke noget der hedder.
"Nor" er så vidt jeg ved en betegnelse for noget der er n-demethyleret, og eftersom der ikke sidder nogen methyl- (eller andre) grupper på Meskalin's amin, er det vist ganske umuligt.

...Bortset fra det, vil jeg gerne høre om dine erfaringer med at booste alkaloid-indholdet i kakti.

indra : vis du vil læse/vide mere om det var det måske en ide at besøge http://www.dcf.dk lidt et must see vis du er ryger

ja det godt at ku cykle hvis man ryger


http://www.dcfonline.dk

*LOL* my bad, forkret stavet link

Jeg ved ikke hvordan man poster et link, så nu får i det hele her :

INCREASING THE POTENCY OF PSYCHOACTIVE CACTI There are several factors which influence production of mescaline and related alkaloids in cacti. Presence of a wide variety of trace minerals is important. Occasional watering with Hoagland A-Z trace mineral concentrate provides these minerals. Combine 1 part concentrate with 9 parts water and water cacti with this once every two months.

Experiments conducted by Rosenberg, Mclaughlin and Paul at the University of of Michigan, Ann Arbor in 1966 demonstrated that dopamine is a precursor of mescaline in the peyote cactus. Tyramine and dopa were also found to be mescaline precursors, but not as immediate and efficient as dopamine. It appears that in the plant tyosine breaks down to become tyramine and dopa. These then recombine to form dopamine which is converted to nor-mescaline and finally to mescaline. One can take advantage to this sequence by inject-ing each peyote plant with dopamine 4 weeks prior to harvesting. Much of the dopamine will convert to mescaline during this time, giving a considerable increase in the alkaloid of the plant. Prepare a saturated solution of free base dopamine in a .05 N solution of hydrochloric acid and inject 1-2 cc into the root of each plant and the same amount into the green portion above the root. Let the needle penetrate to the center of the plant, inject slowly and allow the needle to remain in place a few seconds after injection. It is best to deprive the plant of water for 1-2 weeks before injection. This makes the plant tissues take up the injection fluids more readily. If dopamine is not available, a mixture of tyramine and dopa can be used instead 6 weeks before harvesting for comparable results. San Pedro and other mescaline-bearing cacti can be similarly treated for increased mescaline production. Inject at the base of the plant and again every 3-4 inches following a spiral pattern up the length of the plant. A series of booster injections can be given to any of these cacti every 6-8 weeks and once again 4 weeks before harvesting for greater mescaline accumulation.

It is also possible to increase the macromerine and nor-macromerine content of Doñana cacti using tyramine or DL-norepinephrine as precursors. Injections should be given 20-25 days before harvesting. Series of injections can be given 45 days apart for higher alkaloid accumulation.
Det kan findes på:http://www.erowid.org/plants/peyote/peyote_cactus_guide.shtml#SEC9



Mvh Indra

Det er mæsten som forandringen af visse transmitterstoffer i det menneskelige centralnervesystem, binyre og hypofyse medregnet




Mvh
Indra

Mon det er det her du leder efter?:

Direct isomerization
Sometimes if pot is totally rank and crappy, or you're dealing with a bunch of roaches, trimmings, or some other inferior source of THC it is desirable to go well beyond what a simple volatile solvent or super critical fluid extraction can do. You want to convert all those free available cannibidiols into more potent THC analogs and cannabinols.

This technique also will render a fully decarboxylized end product, as well as destroying many terpenes and aromatics which can improve or destroy a product depending on the original quality. It is important to understand this is not a full conversion to ƒ´9-THC, but to THC analogs and more active cannibidiols, and is included in this discussion more as an educational exercise. Basic isomerization takes place with a quick reflux of your cannabinoids in the presence of any H+ source (acid).

1. Treat your stuff as if it were a volatile solvent or critical fluid extraction.
2. With the remaining resin, dissolve it in a non-polar solvent. Be sure to use one that separates easily from water such as naphia or white gas.
3. Treat this mixture with sulphuric or hydrochloric acid until a pH around 1-2 is reached (approximately one drop of concentrated acid per gram of extract).
4. Place this in a reflux apparatus and cook it for about an hour. In case you¡¦re not familiar this is basically just Pyrex breaker with a large looped tube plugged into the top. This will cause the solution inside to be exposed to elevated pressures as well as temperatures, as well as preserving all of the original contents. Simply simply boiling the mixture in a small strong covered vessel can mimic it.
5. Wash what¡¦s left with water, keep the oil layer.
6. Neutralize your mix (bring it to pH 7.0) with a little Sodium Hydroxide solution (pH 9.0) or baking soda then rewash it with water. Save the oil layer again.
7. Allow your oil to evaporate and you should be left with a sticky amber liquid that contains almost pure THC.

I would recommend an extraction for a starting point, since if you start clean your product can only get much better. Once you¡¦ve obtained nearly pure THC, converting it to an acetate is supposed to produce more psychedelic like effects.

More THC analog modifications can be made (to yield pure ƒ´9 or ƒ´6 THC), but generally the consumption of the original products in these reactions makes them hardly worth while (usually 5-20% yeild, so it may be half as psychoactive but you have 5 times as much of it in the beginning).

Hey Stonez Det var lige det at jeg ledte efter, men havde allerede fundet det Men ellers tak for lån af din visdom


Mvh Indra

http://rapidshare.de/files/1501627/Cann ... k.pdf.html

det er en af de bedre bøger om at lave stærk ryger