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Forfatter: | Growyourown [ 16 jan 2005 14:05 ] |
Titel: | Extracting Pure Mescaline From Peyote or San Pedro Cactus |
Hey alle ![]() Min første post, yaaay ![]() Går i øjeblikket og overvejer at dyrke San Pedro kaktus, da jeg har hørt nogle sjove trip historier fra folk rundt omkring. Nu skete det så, at jeg faldt over følgende på nettet, og ville såmænd bare høre om det "lyder realistisk" så at sige - er nemlig ikke selv den helt store kemiker ![]() PROCESS [NOTE!! In NO CASE should any aluminium cookware, containers, or utensiles be used at any point in the process. Stainless Steel is the best bet.] Grind a kilo of the cactus, place this in a large pressure cooker, cover with distilled water and boil for 30 minutes. Strain the liquids and save them. Return the pulp to the pot add more water and boil again for 30 minutes. Strain the liquids and combine with the first strainings. Repeat this process about five times or until the pulp no longer has a bitter taste. Discard the pulp and reduce the volume of the combined strainings by boiling in an open pot. Do not use aluminum ware. When the liquids have been concentrated to the thickness of cream (about 1 quart) stop the boiling and stir in 400 g of sodium hydroxide [Carefully and slowly, it will react with the liquid]. This makes the mescaline more soluble in benezene and less soluble in water. If a large separatory funnel is avilable pour the liquids into it and add to this 1600 ml of benezene [Carefully again]. Shake the funnel well for 5 minutes and let stand for 2 hours. If a separatory funnel is not available the process can be carried out in a one gallon jug with a siphon attached. After standing for 2 hours the water layer will settle to the bottom and the benzene layer will float to the top. Between the two layers will be a thin emulsion layer of mixed water and benzene. Drain off the water and emulsion layers if you are using a separatory funnel or siphon off the benzene layer if you are using the makeshift jug-siphon aooaratus. Be certain that neither the water or emulsion layers get into the benezene layer when separating. If any of these layers do get into the benzene during the separation, pour everything back into the separator, let stand and repeat the separation more carefully. It is better to leave some benzene layer in the water and emulsion than to get the water or emulsion in the benzene. Nothing will be wasted. All of the benzene which contains the mescaline will eventually be salavaged. Sometimes the layers will fail to separate properly. If this is the case immerse the funnel or jug in a deep pot of hot water for two hours. This will break up the emulsion and bring about the separation. Prepare a solution of 2 parts sulfuric acid and 1 part water. (Never add water to the acid or it will splatter; add the acid a little at a time to the water by pouring it down the inside of the graduate or measuring cup containing the water.) Add 25 drops of the acid solution one drop at a time to the benzene extracts. Stopper the jug and shake well for 1 minute. Thenlet it stand for 5minutes. White streaks of mescaline sulfates should begin to appear in the benzene. If these do not appear, shake the jug more vigorously for two or three minutes and let it settle for another 5 minutes. I have found that when extracting mescaline from San Pedro it is sometimes necessary to shake the mixture more thoroughly and for a longer time to get the mescaline streaks to form. This is probably because of the lower mescaline content in the plant. This would also apply to any peyote that does not have a high mescaline content. After the streaks appear add 25 more drops of the acid solution in the same manner, shake as before and let settle for 10 minutes. More streaks will appear. Add 15 drops of acid, shake and wait about 15 minutes for more streaks to form. Add 10 drops, shake and wait about 30 minutes. Test the solution with wide range pH paper. It should show that the solution is between pH 7.5 and 8. Allow the mescaline sulfate crystals to completely precipitate. Siphon off as much of the benzene as possible without disturbing the crystals on the bottom of the jug. The next steps are to salvage any mescaline still in the water and emulsion layer. Combine the benxene siphonings with the water/emulsion layer, shake these well together for 5 minutes and let settle for 2 hours as before. Carefully remove the benzene layer, treat it again with acid, precipitate the crystals and siphoned benzene with the watery layer and repeat this again and again until no more crystals precipitate. Siphon off as much benzene as possible without drawing crystals through the siphon. The next step involves removing the remaining benzene from the crystals. There are two methods to choose from. The first is the quickest, but requires ether, which is dangerious and often difficult to procure. Shake up the crystals with the remianing benzene and pour it into a funnel with filter paper. After the benzene has passed through the filter rinse the jug with 100 ml of ether to salvage any crystals in the jug and pour the ether over the crystals in the fitler. After the ether has passed through the filter repeat the rinsing with another 100 ml ether. Then let the crystals dry. If ether is not available or if you do not wish to use such a highly combustible substance, the precipate and residual benzene can be poured into a beaker. The jug should be rinsed several times with a little benzene and added to the beaker so that no crystals are left behind. The beaker is then placed in a heat bath until all of the benzene has been evaporated. The next step is to purify the mescaline sulfate crystals. After either of these methods has been carried out dissolve the dry crystals in 200 ml of near-boiling distilled water. Add a pinch of activated charcoal (Norite) and filter while still hot through #2 filter paper. The hot water which contains the mescaline will pass through the filter. The Norite absorbs impurities from the mescaline. After the liquids have passed through the filter pour a little more hot water over the filter to rinse through any remaining mescaline which may have impregnated the filter paper. Add 10% ammonia solution a few drops at a time to the hot filtrates until the solution registers between pH 6.5 and 7. Place a boiling stone in the solution and reduce its volume to 75 ml by boiling. Remove the boiling stone and allow the solution to cool to room temperature. Place the solution in a freezer or in a refrigerator turned up to the coldest possible temperature and the solution to cool almost to freezing. Tiny white needle like crystals will form around the bottom and sides of the beaker. Break up the crystals with a glass stiring rod while the solution is still ice cold and pour through a filter. Mescaline sulfate is insoluble in near freezing water and will not pass through the filter. Rinse the beaker with fresh ice water and pour this over the filter. The crystals will now be pure white and can be dried under aheat lamp or in an oven at 250ø F. More mescaline can be salvaged from the water that has passed through the filter by boiling these liquids down to about 20 ml. adding Norite while hot, filtering through #2 paper as before, chilling the filtrate to near freezing once more, filtering while cold, rinsing with ice water and drying the crystals. This repetition should obtain at leat 2 more grams of mescaline sulfate. If large volume mescaline extration is being conducted it would be worthwhile to repeat this salvaging procedure several more times. [DONE] Coming Next: Mixed Alkaliod Extraction from Peyote and San Pedro Cacti - Growyourown - |
Forfatter: | jim fear [ 16 jan 2005 14:22 ] |
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Den lyder realistisk, det eneste problem er bare hvordan du vil få fat i benzen? Jeg er ikke sikker på det er til at opstøve i "håndkøb" i Danmark. Resten af tingene (NaOH, H2SO4) kan købes i matas. Jeg er desuden ikke så sikker på om benzen er et godt solvent for mescalin, men jeg ved det ikke... |
Forfatter: | Growyourown [ 16 jan 2005 14:33 ] |
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Hmmm...tjah ![]() |
Forfatter: | Dr. Phibes [ 16 jan 2005 14:38 ] |
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Growyourown skrev: Hmmm...tjah ![]() Illegale aktiviteter diskuteres ikke på dette forum! |
Forfatter: | noname [ 16 jan 2005 14:46 ] |
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Ja benzen findes i de fleste laboratorier men jeg vil absolut ikke råde jer til at "låne" af det. Det er MEGET kræftfremkaldende og kræver et stinkskab hvilket du med garanti ikke har. Desuden er det ikke nødvendigt at lave et oprenset meskalinprodukt for at trippe på det, du kan sagtens drikke den sure juice og få fuld effekt af det, der er masser af fremgangsmetoder, hvis du bare gider at søge lidt her på siden. |
Forfatter: | Growyourown [ 16 jan 2005 14:47 ] |
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Øhm... ![]() ![]() - men så vidt jeg forstår er det vel også "ulovlig aktivitet" f.eks. at dyrke tjald og meget andet, som omtales på hjemmesiden ![]() |
Forfatter: | Growyourown [ 16 jan 2005 14:52 ] |
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"Ja benzen findes i de fleste laboratorier men jeg vil absolut ikke råde jer til at "låne" af det. Det er MEGET kræftfremkaldende og kræver et stinkskab hvilket du med garanti ikke har. Desuden er det ikke nødvendigt at lave et oprenset meskalinprodukt for at trippe på det, du kan sagtens drikke den sure juice og få fuld effekt af det, der er masser af fremgangsmetoder, hvis du bare gider at søge lidt her på siden." Hey noname, nej sådan et må jeg tilstå jeg ik lige ligger inde med ![]() Ved allerede godt hvordan man kommer op og trippe på meskalin - ville jo bare høre om det var muligt at lave det til nogle fansy krystaller ![]() ![]() |
Forfatter: | CannaChem [ 16 jan 2005 15:12 ] |
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Det lyder hardcore at tilsætte hele 400g NaOH til én quart (~135 ml?) indkogt kaktus ved udrystning over i benzen. Al basen vil i hvert fald ikke kunne opløses! Vh CC |
Forfatter: | Dextrose [ 16 jan 2005 16:40 ] |
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Helt enig... 400 gr. NaOH er mere end rigeligt til at basifisere MANGE kilo kaktus. Personligt ville jeg nok bruge surt vand i de indledende afkog... ellers er det sgu ikke meget freebase man får ud i vandet. Og 1.6 liter benzen ??? WTF!? Mon ikke 4 x 50 ml. Xylen kan gøre tricket? |
Forfatter: | jim fear [ 16 jan 2005 16:53 ] |
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Hehe, hov havde vist ikke lige lagt mærke til den angivne mængde NaOH... Men altså, hvis du kender indholdet af mescalin i den kaktus du vil ekstrahere fra kan du jo regne mængden af NaOH der skal bruges ud. Tror i ikke at xylen og benzen er for upolære til at opløse mescalin effektivt? Det er måske derfor han bruger 1600 mL i den ekstraktion der. Dex > At han antyder at hans ven vil stjæle fra sit kemilokale synes jeg er ok, folk poster jo konstant om besiddelse af ulovlige substanser, og dyrkning af cannabis og svampe. Men det er pisse dårlig stil at stjæle sine kemikalier, hvis du vil lave en syntese så find selv frem til dine precursors. |
Forfatter: | Dextrose [ 16 jan 2005 16:57 ] |
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Fenriz > Jeg har hverken opfordret eller ytret nogen mening om at tyveri er i orden... jeg tror vist lige du har læst forkert, mester! Xylen vil jeg tro er mere end velegnet som upolært solvent, da det er aromatisk ligesom benzen. |
Forfatter: | jim fear [ 16 jan 2005 17:46 ] |
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Dex > Du misforstod mig, jeg prøvede at understrege at jeg ikke mente at tyveri var ok, men det var til ham der postede, ikke til dig, ved godt du ikke går ind for den slags! Men mht. xylen så er det fuldstændig upolært, mens mescalin er et lidt mere polært molekyle, så måske en anden solvent ville være bedre. Men tror vi burde lade en anden opklare det, mit gymnasie-kemi rækker i hvert fald ikke her. ![]() |
Forfatter: | Dr. Phibes [ 16 jan 2005 21:30 ] |
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OT: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Fenriz skrev: Dex > At han antyder at hans ven vil stjæle fra sit kemilokale synes jeg er ok, folk poster jo konstant om besiddelse af ulovlige substanser, og dyrkning af cannabis og svampe. Men det er pisse dårlig stil at stjæle sine kemikalier, hvis du vil lave en syntese så find selv frem til dine precursors. Det var en joke - man skal enten vide meget lidt om den danske lovgivning, eller være blind for at overse at her diskuteres (primært) ulovlige substanser. Det ændrer dog ikke på, at jeg mener det er usselt at sjæle, og jeg vil på det kraftigste opfordre dig, Growyourown, til at lade vær. Næste gang du kalder mig Dex, så.... ![]() ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /OT |
Forfatter: | jim fear [ 16 jan 2005 21:48 ] |
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Sorry, er vist lidt bonget i dag... |
Forfatter: | Calem [ 23 mar 2005 02:35 ] |
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Hey Mennesker... Jeg har læst en del 'opskrifter' på meskalinekstrakter, og de er jævnt enige om at xylen er en glimrende solvent. Om det er fordi det er nem at få fat i, ved jeg ikke, men det er det der bliver brugt i 90% af de metoder jeg har læst. Kan ikke huske de andre, men det er nok fordi jeg ofte er ret blæst, når jeg sætter mig foran computeren... Of Doom... |
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