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Hello

In the thread I am VERY careful NOT to reveal any vendor INFO, that is NOT what the thread is about, I feel if I don't add this disclaimer, a trigger-happy mod may kill the thread.
No-one is getting vendor info from me, BUT we NEED a register so we do not buy poison.

(Once I was shipped 3 grams of a relatively mild opioid agonist INSTEAD of 6-APB, I was high and extremely paranoid for 3-5 days, and the first 24 hours I really thought I was going to die, and I took under 600 mg in all. I want to AVOID stuff like this from happening, I was lucky, the mixup was from relatively untoxic to more toxic or even lethan, but it could well have been)

So this is indeed an HR effort. I can write the code for a very simple site, if someone can supply serverspace.

The target is NOT RC Sites but chemical vendors, mostly chinese. The UK RC sites buy their stuff from these Chinese factories and then marks it up by 1000-1000%
Only obvious advantage is that RC benzos from UK RC Sites are in "pellets" whereas RC Benzos bought from chemical vendors in china are pure pharmaceutical grade (99.99%) powder.
(One can dissolve the RC Benzo in propylene glycol and thus dose like volumetrically or even inject in, whatever one fancies, and this solvent is also very cheap in China)

I would like you create a small site like "safeorscam.com", but for primarily chinese chemical vendor, that is legal chinese chemical suppliers like Bie&Berntsen in DK.
The Chinese have almost no regulations, so anyone can buy anything, yet. I am collecting a list of factories that can be trusted.

I have collected some entries already. People who write me, will be informed on in the process, BUT this is STILL not a way of getting vendor info. As this is forbidden on this site.

I someone would like to help me create this registry, write me at orbitaldebrissynthetics@gmail.com

I am against the idea of having such a list hosted on psychedelia. I feel this is not within the scope of psychedelia although Im sure the intentions behind are good
Let me add that chemicals bought from Chinese manufacturers are usually not pharmaceutical grade (99.99%) pure stuff even though they claim it to be. Chinese manufacturers are notorious for delivering poor products and not meeting GMP standards. Even inconspicuous chemicals produced for legit companies in Europe are often of questionable quality. As a consequence production of intermediates for the pharmaceutical industry, custom chemical synthesis etc rarely get outsourced to China. They often try to scam even major pharmaceutical companies. You can be lucky to find a decent manufacturer off course. But I would suggest you purchase elsewhere in general if you care about harm reduction

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I never said it should be HERE. I said the exact opposite very plainly. That it is OFF SITE project.

And I know not all chemicals are pharm grade, that is one of the points of the registry. Although there ARE vendors out there that supply what it at least technical grade, that is MUCH MUCH purer than any street drug will ever be. On the stree they get paid in weight an impurities weigh a great deal, therefore no serious purification is made of street drugs. We have all experienced drugs which are brown, yellow, red, drugs that smelled and so on. Almost all if not ALL psychoactive subtance are white when pure. and almost all are also completely odorless. There are some, exceptions, but:

Amphetamine sulphate 99,97%, white, completely oderless white powder with a disticntive amine taste

Same is true of all amphetamine's derivatives, like MDA, MDMA. They only have weird colors and smells because they are made in very pimitive laboratories.

The chinese stuff, when you are lucky, are from highly professional industrial laboratories, and here you cannot by a chemical with a purity less than 99,00%. You can buy certain mixtures and solutions. But when buying a single substance it is PURE.

If have found a few reliable such companies but I had to filter through A LOT of scammers and shit.

Fx on company has 99,98% racemic methadone HCl, same purity all the RC benzos and 4-mar
Mentioning prices is illegal, but they are extremely cheap compared to RC Sits and street drugs

So read the post again and remember that it is supposed to by a NEW site containing only that list someone is then approved to add to the list.
I could write such a page, but I hate web coding and I am accordingly sucky at it, so if anyone would like to make the code itself.

Write me at orbitaldebrissynthetics@gmail.com if you want to participate in making this gret zone safe.

Yes, that is the point. But please do NOT talk to everyone about chinese chemicals, because then it will take a few months and then there has been passed harsh legislation on the subject.
So please be quiet. THough dogs wont do them good. Even for a dog a nose a pure non-volatile chemical is pretty odorless. If no molecules evaporate off and hit the receptors in the dog's nose the dog will smell nothing. Dogs smell cokaine and meth because it its very impure and STINKS even to a human nose.

Even if dogs CAN detects well-packages pharm grade amines, the dogs will have to train with the chemicals in question, so again if people can shut up about this, the bonanza of safe, pure stuff can go on for a long time.


Any mod: Will you please after af few days delete the the entire thread? I know that the tabloid press once watches this place, and "chinese killer drugs" would be a bad head line.

So please erase it. Or can I do that myself?

On the contrary you never said that it should be an off site project. And in your poll there is an option "let someone else do it". Well thats the reason for my confusion



What evidence do you have for this purity? Do they get analyzed after you purchase them? I think it would be nice to have a database where the purchased substances would be analyzed by an independent lab. That would truly tell something about the reliability of a manufacturer. Otherwise we still rely on subjective experiences. Which tells us very little about the true quality of a product with regards to toxic contaminants, adulterants etc. Individual user reports just make sure you get a product that actually makes you high, not that the product is safe to ingest.



The way I read this sentence is that all the products have the same purity. Correct me if Im wrong. This strongly suggests that they are lying about the purity of their products. Its very unlikely you would have a large inventory of compounds with the exact same purity. Nearly no companies producing chemical intermediates for professionals have a catalogue like this. Not even companies producing pharmaceuticals under GMP.

The major problem is that there is no penalty for these companies for not delivering a high quality product. RC vendors buy it anyway.
Subsequently there has been several cases of food laced with very unhealthy stuff https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_safe ... s_in_China
I know its a huge country with many, many companies, but this tells us something about the state of things in China.

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Penalties against possession of a drug should not be more damaging to an individual than the use of the drug itself.

-Jimmy Carter

As always, I welcome anything that potentially could serve the purpose of promoting harmreduction but I do see two major flauds with this particular project of yours. First of all, I don't see how this differs in any way from similar project(s) that has been well established for quite some time. What I'm saying is, there already is a very comprehensing list of (more or less) reliable vendors which also mentions which ones people should stay away from and why.

What strikes me the most when reading your post though, is that, as far as I know, this thread is going against some of the core rules of Psychedelia. I might be missing something here and the rules did change quite a bit some time ago so I could be jumping the gun on this one but how could this not be considered sourcing?
I'm not saying that sourcing is your intended purpose of making this thread but in order for you to make this registry, people would have to send you links to vendors that they have succesfully used in the past, right?

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Why dont you just use one of the sites that are in place ? like gramsinfo.