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| Forfatter: | DN [ 22 apr 2003 13:14 ] |
| Titel: | RAVE ACT (USAs svar på Rave kommisionen) |
det er fandme trist [img]images/smiles/icon_sad.gif[/img] men det virker som at uanset hvad regeringen har straffet eller øget i kampen mod stoffer så har det aldrig stoppet stoffer. det er en frihed de ikke kan berøve os! life _will_ find a way |
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| Forfatter: | poke-1-kenobi [ 22 apr 2003 13:29 ] |
| Titel: | RAVE ACT (USAs svar på Rave kommisionen) |
Det sådan en anti rave sanktion gør er at de sender musikken ud i undergrunden hvor der ikke er voldsomt tænkt på gæsternes sikkerhed, og hvor der bliver hapset endnu flere stoffer end officiele steder hvor der er opsyn med den slags. Et godt eksempel er sverige hvor alle folk "med glowsticks" tar på picnic og blæser et par dage ude i naturen.. |
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| Forfatter: | DN [ 22 apr 2003 13:37 ] |
| Titel: | RAVE ACT (USAs svar på Rave kommisionen) |
true. generalt bliver det farligere for de unge at tage til techno fester da arrangørende bliver en hel del mere paranoide - og alle går jo med håndvåben i USA der kommer sikkert til at rulle en del hoveder [img]images/smiles/icon_sad.gif[/img] |
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| Forfatter: | Dextrose [ 22 apr 2003 13:47 ] |
| Titel: | RAVE ACT (USAs svar på Rave kommisionen) |
[img]images/smiles/icon_mad.gif[/img] Det er fandme til at brække sig over... Samme situation, har jeg læst om i Israel (mener jeg), hvor en arrangør blev varetægtsfængslet i flere uger og anklaget for at være bagmand til gigantisk narkosalg - udelukkende fordi at manden holdt en fest. |
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| Forfatter: | poke-1-kenobi [ 22 apr 2003 14:50 ] |
| Titel: | RAVE ACT (USAs svar på Rave kommisionen) |
Nu har USA også den lov om at det er bartenderens skyld hvis man drikker sig for fuld og sætter sig ud i en bil og gør skade på sig selv eller andre. Det er fuldstændig absurd at man ikke har nok tiltro til at folk selv kan ta´ sit ansvar eller, eller selv stå til regnskab for de ulykker man laver. Om det så er spiritus kørsel, eller hvis man fylder sig med narko |
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| Forfatter: | DN [ 22 apr 2003 15:10 ] |
| Titel: | RAVE ACT (USAs svar på Rave kommisionen) |
jeg fatter ikke at man ikke har mere respekt for individet. og slet ikke i et land som USA som på andre punkte fx våben ikke blander sig i privatlivet. det virker for mig da heller ikke rationelt af smide ejeren af cluben eller arrangøren i fængsel. for det første er det hamrende uproduktivt og for det andet sidder der vist en del i fængsel i forvejen. i det hollandske program vi snakkede om for et stykke tid siden, sagde en embedsmand at fængsels idustrien var den tredje størst voksende i USA. kan politikerne ikke se det er galt ? |
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| Forfatter: | Dr. Phibes [ 22 apr 2003 15:38 ] |
| Titel: | RAVE ACT (USAs svar på Rave kommisionen) |
System of a down - Prison Song <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>They're trying to build a prison They're trying to build a prison Following the rights movement You clamped on with your iron fists Drugs became conveniently Available for all the kids Following the rights movement You clamped on with your iron fists Drugs became conveniently Available for all the kids I buy my crack, I smack my bitch Right here in hollywood (nearly 2 million americans are incarcerated in the prison system prison system of the US) They're trying to build a prison They're trying to build a prison They're trying to build a prison (for you and me to live in) Another prison system Another prison system Another prison system (for you and me to live in) Minor drug offenders fill your prisons you don't even flinch all our taxes paying for your wars against the new non-rich Minor drug offenders fill your prisons you don't even flinch all our taxes paying for your wars against the new non-rich I buy my crack, I smack my bitch right here in hollywood The percentage of americans in the prison system prison system, has doubled since 1985 They're trying to build a prison They're trying to build a prison They're trying to build a prison (for you and me to live in) Another prison system Another prison system Another prison system For you and I, For you and I, For you and I. They're trying to build a prison They're trying to build a prison They're trying to build a prison For you and me Oh baby, you and me. All research and successful drug policy show that treatment should be increased And law enforcement decreased While abolishing mandatory minimun sentences All research and successful drug policy show that treatment should be increased And law enforcement decreased While abolishing mandatory minimun sentences Utilising drugs to pay for secret wars around the world drugs are now your global policy now you police the globe I buy my crack, I smack my bitch right here in hollywood Drug money is used to rig elections and train brutal corporate sponsored dictators around the world They're trying to build a prison They're trying to build a prison They're trying to build a prison (for you and me to live in) Another prison system Another prison system Another prison system (for you and me to live in) For you and I, for you and I, for you and I For you and I They're trying to build a prison They're trying to build a prison They're trying to build a prison for you and me oh baby, you and me<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> |
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| Forfatter: | Rylle [ 22 apr 2003 15:39 ] |
| Titel: | RAVE ACT (USAs svar på Rave kommisionen) |
Dybt tragisk! Lad os håbe den danske regering ikke følger trop! Det ville da være dødsstødet for den danske scene! :( - Rylle |
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| Forfatter: | TATP [ 22 apr 2003 15:40 ] |
| Titel: | RAVE ACT (USAs svar på Rave kommisionen) |
Hmmm, ØV... Er "de" i gang med at få spærret alle almindelige borgere inde? - så de til sidst kan sidde og gnække, og spise deres ostepops, som de indsatte laver- BTW. det med at det kun er i amerika, at bartenderen har skylden, for at folk kører, når de har drukket, passer ikke helt - Hvis en bartender herhjemme, ved at en mand skal ud og køre, og serverer for ham alligevel, så bliver bartenderen straffet- eller hvis en fuld mand graver sine nøgler frem, og siger at nu skal han sq ud og køre hjem, så står alle dem, som ikke greb ind, faktisk med et ansvar. |
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| Forfatter: | poke-1-kenobi [ 23 apr 2003 00:23 ] |
| Titel: | RAVE ACT (USAs svar på Rave kommisionen) |
Læste den her triste artikkel idag [img]images/smiles/icon_sad.gif[/img] Rave promotere og arrangøre kan nu blive gjort ansvarlig for at deres gæster har stoffer på sig og risikere bøder og fængsels straf. artikkel <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Now, club owners and partyers alike are being subjected to a loosely worded and heavy-handed law that authorities will be able to indiscriminately use to shut down music events at any time they please, assuming they find evidence of drug use. Thanks to Biden's surreptitious efforts, a few glow sticks and a customer or two on Ecstasy could be all it takes to throw a party promoter in jail for 20 years. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>The passing of the Illicit Drug Anti-Proliferation Act was sudden but not entirely out of the blue. Last year, the Illicit Drug Anti-Proliferation Act was known as the RAVE Act (the leadenly acronymed "Reducing Americans' Vulnerability to Ecstasy Act"), a piece of legislation designed by Biden in early 2002 to put rave promoters out of business. An expansion of the crack-house statute of 1986 -- which made crack-den proprietors liable for what took place in their homes, even if they didn't deal drugs themselves -- the RAVE Act threatened those who "knowingly and intentionally rent, lease, profit from, or make available for use, with or without compensation, [a] place for the purpose of unlawfully manufacturing, storing, distributing, or using a controlled substance" with 20 years in jail and $250,000 in fines. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Minder lidt om situationen i mexico hvor psytrance promotere ryger i fængsel under den begrundelse at de giver unge mennesker en muglighed for at tage stoffer, det samme gælder i belgien hvor det dog også omfatter sorte penge... [img]images/smiles/icon_sad.gif[/img] [ 22 April 2003: Besked ændret af: poke-1-kenobi ] |
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| Forfatter: | n_dk [ 23 apr 2003 11:39 ] |
| Titel: | RAVE ACT (USAs svar på Rave kommisionen) |
Og hvem har fortalt dig det? Referencer tak! Det er, afaik, kun udskænkning af alkohol til personr under 18 år de kan straffes for. Og der er det både bartenderen, dørmanden og personen der køber der bliver straffet. |
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| Forfatter: | Bøh [ 23 apr 2003 14:06 ] |
| Titel: | RAVE ACT (USAs svar på Rave kommisionen) |
Look all around you there’s a war that’s going on A struggle against the odds thats’s breaking out and must be one They’re getting ready with the weapons they have found Take inspiration from the sound See it in the faces of the people everyday We need to take control and find some ammo right away our cause is righteous and we’re gonna have our say Get ready for the judgment day Go ahead and try Or kiss your ass good-bye People of society are running for their lives Get up now and go Or your never gonna know Never gonna make it in your houses lying low Give it one good try Give it all and fight till you die A Puppet government Their dying in the streets Families are breaking up cause underpaids can’t make ends meat The establishment has put their money underground Cause they all know what’s coming down A lucky precious with money in their banks Can’t imagine what it’s like to find yourself in homeless ranks They’ve got no conscience for the ones who won’t survive The time for payback has arived All alone in your own society outside are the cries of lives in misery an evil plot of a false democracy subjugating souls just dying to be free |
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| Forfatter: | Dextrose [ 23 apr 2003 14:59 ] |
| Titel: | RAVE ACT (USAs svar på Rave kommisionen) |
Fuck nu af med jeres citater, og skriv noget konkret! |
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| Forfatter: | TATP [ 23 apr 2003 15:47 ] |
| Titel: | RAVE ACT (USAs svar på Rave kommisionen) |
N|DK - Det er noget jeg har lært engang, da jeg gik til køreundervisning - en bartender, der udskænker til en mand, som han ved skal ud og køre bil, kan straffes, ifølge nogle §´er om spritkørsel! |
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| Forfatter: | Bøh [ 23 apr 2003 17:16 ] |
| Titel: | RAVE ACT (USAs svar på Rave kommisionen) |
Dextrose: <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> Fuck nu af med jeres citater, og skriv noget konkret! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> [img]images/smiles/icon_cool.gif[/img] |
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